. >> this week news broke that treasury secretary tim geithner is going to leave possibly by the end of the month, which means ahead of all of the debt ceiling talks. do you think that would hurt the economy if he's not there to be the one to help sort of, i don't know, keep everything on balance? >> i do worry a little bit about this. there's no clear person who would have been named if he's leaving at the end of the month. the name tossed around most commonly is jack lew. but he's not a clear candidate yet at least. secretary geithner has been very instrumental in talking to the congress for the last couple years about the budget and about the debt ceiling. he was very involved in 2011. he's obviously been very involved the last couple of months. if he leaves, i think we could -- it really depends who takes over for him. but i think we're -- i think we're looking at a lot of big issues to face before march and so it's really going to come down to who that person is that takes over. >> yeah, certainly. have to talk a little bit of football because we always talk about the commercial